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Group Spamming

Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:20 AM EST
not-news, newsvine, articles, posts, meta, groups, seeds, spamming
By McSpocky

I have written a couple of articles in the past about Newsviners spamming groups. I don't consider occasional accidental off topic posts to Newsvine groups spamming, but when you do see spamming to groups you can easily recognize it.

I was looking at several examples today where a person posted a seed or article to all the groups they belonged to, no matter what the topic of the groups. In fact as I was looking through groups, I saw a number of them where there were only about 1 on topic post for each 9 off topic posts. What good is a group if 90% of the posts to it are completely unrelated topics to the topic of the group?

In this REAL example, the topic of the article is one bashing President Obama. Here is a list of all the groups the article was posted to.

 112th United States Congress, Afghanistan News, American Progressives, American_Politics, Anti-War, Bar Room Debates, Brave New World, Breaking News, Centervine, Corporate Watchdogs, Corporatism, Counterterrorism, Crime & Justice News, DemGuys, Democracy, Democrats, EconVine, Election 2012, EthicsVine, Eurovine, FIRED UP DEMOCRATS!, Focus on Finance, Foreign Affairs & Policy, Free Market, Free Thinkers, Get On Your Soapbox, Grey Boomers, Unite!, Gut Check America,Happy with Corporate America?, Health Care Policy, Heated Debate, Ideas for World Peace, Iraq News, LaborVine, Left of Center,Living with Less, Mad As Hell!! Aren't You??, Mental Health and Wellness, MiddleEast Spring & Policies, Newsvine HONOR Vine, Newsvine International, Newsvine Optimist Club, Nightly News (Old), Obama Supporters, ObamaExpress, Obamaholics Anonymous, ObamaVine, Occupy Wall Street, Oil, Oligarchy, Open Minded, Operation: Hearts and Minds, Outraged Americans For Justice, OWS Consolidarity, Palestine - The Holy Land, Political Analysis, Power to The People!, Proud Liberal and Progressive, Rational Progressive Party, Respectful Debate, Seeders and Posters w/ Manners, Soapbox, The Great American ReEducation, The Truth Network, To MSNBC, Torture, US News and Views , V.O.I.C.E. in America, We Must Change, World News 1, WTF?

Now does that look like responsible posting to you?

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McSpocky

What is your opinion about this?

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:24 AM EST
McSpocky

Another example... Titles of what appear to be off topic articles in the GOP Watch group.

Missing Californians

Obama Resorts to Budget Gimmickry

Inside Media Matters: The 'Fox Fund,' Harassment and Private Investigators

Inside Media Matters: Founder Believed to be 'Regularly Using Illegal Drugs, Including Cocaine' -

President Obama Moves Left; White House Budget

Mr. Obama, We Don't Have A Tax Problem, We Have A Spending Problem

Obama Advisors Feared a Coup If the Administration Prosecuted War Crimes

That is just in a 24 hour period!

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:40 AM EST
js-445607

My computer has been having issues with the Newsvine site and it jumps comments, recycles back to comments, jumps to links once I've read the last comment on an article and either won't allow me to click on a group or clicks the wrong one. Viki just gave me a heads up on the last one so I did edit that article. I think that sometimes people get a bit confused and other times they are totally confused as to what groups to post to.

However, I also believe that some don't care where they post their article and any old group will do.

  • 6 votes
#1.2 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:23 PM EST
PonGoad

Hi js-445607

I know this is slightly off-topic and I might have commented on this before, but in response to your comment, I've been having the same kinds of issues, too. I even have comments that post all by themselves and it posts the original typed comments and not the revised ones. AND...to make matters worse, once the incorrect comment posts itself, it doesn't give me the time allowance to edit it. I've had a few embarrasing moments of this kind.

In this same vein, I would post a comment and after Newsvine indicates it was posted, I go to look at the posted comment, it wasn't there. So, I repost it and the next thing you know, I am embarrased because Newsvine somehow flipped to the 2nd article and posted it on that one instead. No, I did not post it on the second article. It's the article that came up after Newsvine refreshes itself after the 'post comment' button is clicked on.

Also, sometimes when I post an article, my words are changed, words are missing and I have to go and re-edit it (if I can). I know it is not the comment I wanted posted because I keep a copy of what I have written before I post it as there are times, my comment disappears. AND...there are times it won't let me post a comment at all or save changes to a re-edit. I hit the save changes button, it appears to save and when I look at the comment, the re-edit was not made.

Who knows, Newsvine has embarrassing things happen, too, it's not just me. :/

Glad to know I am not the only one js.

Pon and Grisham

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:44 AM EST
McSpocky

Fun and games, huh? LOL

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:35 PM EST
MJL-3

js

My computer is doing the same thing

"Solar Flares" :)

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:27 PM EST
McSpocky

In going through comments when there are several pages, I can click the green button on the last new comment on page 3 of comments, for example, and instead of going to page 4 have it take me to page 2 instead. When it does that, I scroll up or down and just clik the link to the page number I was supposed to go to. It seem like it has had that problem for a long time, so I guess I'm kind of used to it. :)

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:49 PM EST
MJL-3

Yep, NV has the hiccups.

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:12 PM EST
kjpxxx

I just lost the last half of an article...it just evaporated when posted along with a addendum I placed at the end of my article explaining the Vine ate the last half. I had to rewrite the addendum and left it as it was...........over the weekend. Hiccups my ass....I even asked the Vine to help........never heard a word......

  • 5 votes
#1.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:04 PM EST
McSpocky

It's frustrating to spend a lot of time writing something, anywhere, and then lose all or part of it. :(

  • 4 votes
#1.9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:31 PM EST
Reply
jwc2blue

Looks to me like an idiot looking for an audience.

I would definitely have reported it.

  • 10 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:33 AM EST
McSpocky

I noticed there are several people doing this exact same thing. :(

  • 10 votes
#2.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:34 AM EST
jwc2blue

Did staff do anything about it? If not, you should report it.

  • 7 votes
#2.2 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:36 AM EST
McSpocky

What I did so far was to remove the person from my groups.

  • 9 votes
#2.3 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:42 AM EST
jwc2blue

So it was the same Viner posting all of those?

Gotta catch some zzzzs McSpocky. I'll catch up with you later!

  • 6 votes
#2.4 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:43 AM EST
McSpocky

The one viner I mentioned in the article posted one story to all the groups listed.

However I saw several other viners doing the same thing, posting their seeds and articles to what appears to be all the groups that they belong to.

In comment #1.1, it appears at least most of the off topic seeds and/or articles were posted to that group by one person. I only looked through a 24 hour period there though, so there could possibly be other people doing the same thing.

  • 7 votes
#2.5 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:24 AM EST
alaskabrat

oops guilty, sorry i am just learning and could use pointers, cause i can write articles that are not just me, im starting that next week, thanks spocky peace out, seriously i will.

  • 5 votes
#2.6 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:31 AM EST
McSpocky

Oh, I hadn't noticed that you did anything like that. But when someone belongs to 60 or 70 groups and posts something to them no matter what topic it is, (like the person I wrote about in the article) then it's VERY noticeable.

  • 3 votes
#2.7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:39 PM EST
Reply
rottlady

Group spamming is definitely not cool, if I find someone that does this more than once, they get booted from the group. Articles and seeds should only be posted to the appropriate groups!

  • 7 votes
#3 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:38 AM EST
Viki Babbles Gonia

What she said.

I'll remind people, generally right in their threads (or, if it's someone who seems to have done it by accident, I'll often create a group thread). Sometimes I send them a message via Newsvine Mail. But if those warnings go ignored, I just dump them from the group and make a note in the group conversation box.

These absolutely should be reported. Group spamming is a no-no, and is a violation of CoH #3, as HollyKl quotes below in #4.

That said, I don't think zapping people for group spamming is a high staff priority. Maybe if more reports come in regarding this kind of activity, it will become a higher priority. And in the long run, it's up to group owners/admins to keep their groups free of inappropriate content. It'd be nice if users would post responsibly, but as we can see, they just don't.

I'm also starting to place users on ignore who do this stuff.

  • 7 votes
#3.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:41 AM EST
rottlady

Viki, I guess when I typed this so early in the morning I was a bit too terse. I also contact them usually via Contact this author to warn them, but if it continues they do get the boot.

  • 7 votes
#3.2 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:28 PM EST
HollyKl

I do think the chronic offenders tend to be those who really don't care about actively participating in a group and are more interested in using groups to drive traffic to their articles; those folks usually don't bother to check a group's guidelines when they join. The ones who want to be active group participants generally are more aware of the group's guidelines and don't need to be warned about inappropriate content more than once.

  • 6 votes
#3.3 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:20 PM EST
Viki Babbles Gonia

Not too terse at all, Rottlady! The chronic abusers couldn't care less if they're warned. They just keep spamming away.

  • 4 votes
#3.4 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:04 PM EST
Red Wolf

The chronic abusers couldn't care less if they're warned.

I don't know, some of them care enough to send abusive emails attacking you and claiming it's their right to spam the group. Which will get them immediately booted from the group in question.

  • 5 votes
#3.5 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:57 PM EST
MJL-3

When I first started in 2008, it took awhile for me to even find groups, I of course was ignorant and clipped away, Well I was told nicely by some and not so nice to others, but I learned my lesson,

The ones that do it on purposed should be deleted and then NV staff should ban them. It very irritating

  • 5 votes
#3.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:29 AM EST
Viki Babbles Gonia

I think I can safely speak for both Red Wolf and, obviously, for myself, that we both think that chronic group spammers should be subjected to suspensions and then a full ban if they don't stop with the group spamming.

  • 6 votes
#3.7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:35 AM EST
MJL-3

Viki

Absolutely :)

  • 4 votes
#3.8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:44 AM EST
Red Wolf

Even if staff don't want to look at suspensions and bans, I'd be happy with the repeat offenders having all their group features turned off. All content is removed from groups, offender is removed from groups, they can no longer see the option to join groups.

If they can't use the tool in a civil manner, they shouldn't use it at all.

  • 9 votes
#3.9 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:01 PM EST
MJL-3

Red Wolf, that's a good Idea, maybe do that for a six months or a year.

  • 5 votes
#3.10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:21 PM EST
Viki Babbles Gonia

That right there, Red Wolf, is a great idea. Perhaps something to bring up for the 'New' Newsvine. Tyler has intimated that the functions of the new site might help to alleviate some of these issues, though he hasn't said anything specific that I've seen.

  • 5 votes
#3.11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:35 PM EST
spiffie

though he hasn't said anything specific that I've seen.

Here's a "prediction": group administrators will be able to "pin" articles to the top of their column front pages. This would be useful so that explanatory or purpose articles would always be visible to member, or you could feature an article or seed for a longer period of time without it being pushed off the front page in high-traffic groups.

  • 5 votes
#3.12 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:38 AM EST
Viki Babbles Gonia

I sure hope so you're right!

  • 3 votes
#3.13 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:45 AM EST
spiffie

Let's just say if you keep your eyes open, you might be able to make that prediction, too. ;)

  • 2 votes
#3.14 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:21 AM EST
McSpocky

spiffie

though he hasn't said anything specific that I've seen.

Here's a "prediction": group administrators will be able to "pin" articles to the top of their column front pages. This would be useful so that explanatory or purpose articles would always be visible to member, or you could feature an article or seed for a longer period of time without it being pushed off the front page in high-traffic groups.

I really like that idea... I hope it happens to be one of the new features. :)

  • 3 votes
#3.15 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:42 PM EST
MJL-3

I wish we could pin our "private clippings " too. I save certain clips for a reason, then have to go back and find them it is a pain in the you know what.

  • 2 votes
#3.16 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:28 PM EST
McSpocky

I've gotten now so I do searches this way to find information I have lost. It works pretty well. For example, if I want to find all my seeds/articles about Keystone, I search for this:

Keystone site:illuminate.newsvine.com

That has been helping me a lot.

I also made a page that I didn't post to all of Newsvine, just to my column with important information links in it. I keep adding to it as I need. That helps me out a little bit too.

  • 2 votes
#3.17 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:46 PM EST
Reply
HollyKl

It's a continuing (and extremely annoying) problem as anyone who owns/administers one or more groups knows. What really bothers me is when I see this behavior from viners who have been around for a long time and should really know better. Group spamming is also a COH violation.

The ability to categorize content, including clipping, is a privilege that carries with it a responsibility. Publishing or clipping to irrelevant groups and/or entering irrelevant tags is prohibited.

  • 7 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:30 AM EST
PonGoad

I have noticed considerable spamming myself. Because of this I elected not to join in those groups.

Something I just found out that I was guilty of and probably happens more with new viners, is that I was not checking the public group I started. Initially, I checked it every day for new members and since no one wanted to join, I stopped checking it. Then I forgot about checking it. I went into my group today and found there was a viner waiting to be accepted into membership. (red face)...I complained about that once, myself.

McSpocky, if it wasn't for your article, the membership request would still be sitting there waiting for me to respond.

Thanks, Pon :/

  • 6 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:03 AM EST
McSpocky

No problem. :)

I left a number of groups that I belonged to where most of the posts were off topic. I'm talking about maybe 9 out of 10 being off topic...

  • 3 votes
#5.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:45 PM EST
Reply
Shelby Davenport

Well, I just got called on one, but appreciate the clarification - it was a minor point and I'm glad it was brought to my attention. There are those like your example McSpocky that are obvious in what they are doing, mine was a minor technicality that I was unaware of.

Reminder emails to some is fine - blatant violations from others is another thing.

  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:38 AM EST
McSpocky

It's easy for anyone to make occasional mistakes. In some of the groups, to me anyway, it is difficult to tell what exactly is supposed to be posted in the group. Sometimes it's also easy to click the wrong radio button for which group to post something in. Sometimes you might post something to a group thinking it belonged in the group, then find out from the owner you were understanding the purpose of the group wrong... I think I was rambling there a little bit. lol

  • 2 votes
#6.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:49 PM EST
Reply
MoonCrow

I think there should be a place to "block" political-based articles if the group is not politically based. From what I've seen, most of the group spamming abusers are posting articles about politics.

I mean these folks need to get a grip. If I check in on my groups that are paranormal, ghosts, etc., topics, why would I even want to read a political article taking up room in the group?

  • 5 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:44 AM EST
kjpxxx

I totally agree with you. BUT, as I found out this week....this site is a politically right entity and that is what they do...spam groups, if that is what it is called. When I was told I gave up my Freedom of Speech rights, when I signed on to the Vine , [via the CoH] I also gave up the right to decide who and what is written in" comments" on my Article.

  • 5 votes
#7.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:02 PM EST
Reply
alaskabrat

damn spocky and i thought i was being a little pushy but heck, i feel better, but still will learn from others, thanks again, and p.s. how in the heck do you write so many articles in one day, wow, i can bareley figure out how to make my way around here, and actually i misspell alot but thats because i sam smokin on the keys, anyhoo bye

  • 4 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:09 PM EST
McSpocky

I seed a lot more things than I write. But I'm a news junky and when I find something that I find interesting, I just want to share it. :)

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:51 PM EST
Reply
Darrah, Greenville, SC

That's one thing I can't stand on NV. I've seen quite a few viners do it on a daily basis. Some have been here for yrs.

I thought it was a violation of the CoH but evidently not.

What I do when it happens in my groups is that I'll start deleting the inappropriate articles. If it turns into an everyday thing, I usually contact the member and bring attention to the problem. They'll usually stop. Sometimes it's a misunderstanding by the member. Then there some who have gotten upset (evidently) and left the group.

You pretty much know when a member(who does this) starts eyeing your groups. But of course we've made mistakes by inviting them to our groups to begin with.

  • 4 votes
#9 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:36 PM EST
Darrah, Greenville, SC

I never realized this until a few min. ago. A member of one my groups seeded one of his articles to over twenty groups. Some have extremely strange names. It turns out that he's creating groups where he's the only member and those are some of the groups he's seeding them to. Some have absolutely nothing to do with his article or anything else evidently. They're just silly names.

  • 3 votes
#9.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:08 PM EST
Darrah, Greenville, SC

Make that 40 groups he's seeded the article to. Most of the groups he's created were done in 09.

  • 3 votes
#9.2 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:14 PM EST
Viki Babbles Gonia

Then he's just wasting his time. If he's the only member of the groups he's seeding/posting to, he's only spamming himself. Seems pretty silly!

  • 4 votes
#9.3 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:05 PM EST
Red Wolf

If he's the only member of the groups he's seeding/posting to, he's only spamming himself.

Get a list of the groups and report them in one hit.

The single member group spam is an SEO tactic. The silly bastards spam their crap to masses of different self-created groups, but each group has a different subdomain. It's a blatant attempt to game Google.

  • 5 votes
#9.4 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:00 PM EST
Darrah, Greenville, SC

No, he's a member of tons of groups that he spams to as well.

It's just strange that he's created so many silly little groups to seed to. To be the only member for three yrs. is odd. I've never run across a viner who's done that. Talking about an elitist group. LOL

I don't know what that means, RW. Do you want me to send the info to you since you know what I'm referring to?

  • 3 votes
#9.5 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:04 PM EST
Darrah, Greenville, SC

I noticed that some viners have their own blogs. I forget how it works and what's a violation of the CoH when it comes to that. This person I've been referring to has his own blog that he advertises on his column. Is that considering spamming? If he's been here since 07, I guess that means he's hasn't done enough damage to get banned.

  • 3 votes
#9.6 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:24 PM EST
Red Wolf

While the content in this case may be legitimate, what he's doing is dodgy.

SEO (Search Engine Optimisation) is the art of tweaking content to get better Google results. The only way to get better Google results is to have relevant content. The scum you'll see pushing SEO in the Greenhouse are morons who are trying to sell snake oil to the technically clueless.

Now that's out of the way... What he's doing by spamming his crap to masses of groups is dodgy. You're looking at it as dodgy out of the box, which it is, but he does think he has a purpose. What he's trying to do is get "My Crap Content" into Google multiple times, through multiple subdomains.

So a search for "My Crap Content" returns:

username.newsvine.com/my-crap-content
group1.newsvine.com/my-crap-content
group2.newsvine.com/my-crap-content
group3.newsvine.com/my-crap-content
group4.newsvine.com/my-crap-content

It's all the same garbage, but it's a tactic to push his content further up the Google results, because Google sees a lot of it.

Report his personal groups to admin or send them to me and I'll do it. As for the real groups, add them to the group spam report, but try dropping a line to the owner and bring it to their attention. Some won't care, but others may be as annoyed as you are.

  • 6 votes
#9.7 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:31 PM EST
Darrah, Greenville, SC

Thanks. I decided to go ahead and send some stuff to admin. before I saw your new comment.

The guy has soo many groups in which he's the only member that I just stopped. Some were created a few yrs. ago and he's added his current seeds to them. Then there are new groups.

I don't know how one person can be so damn busy while obviously holding down a real job outside of NV! LOL

  • 4 votes
#9.8 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:38 PM EST
Darrah, Greenville, SC

I'm really confused about the CoH and its violations regarding viner spamming. Doesn't that fall under CoH#2?

If a viner shows up on quite a few sites and he is promoting himself as a NV user and directs viewers back here, I suppose that's not a violation is it.

What constitutes a CoH violation regarding viner spam?

  • 3 votes
#9.9 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:48 PM EST
Viki Babbles Gonia

Spamming groups with inappropriate content is directly addressed in the Code of Honor.

3. Headlines should be supported by the information presented in the article/seed, rather than used primarily as a means to draw attention. Articles and seeds must be published to appropriate groups and categories. Tags must be relevant to the article or seed. More +

  1. The ability to categorize content, including clipping, is a privilege that carries with it a responsibility. Publishing or clipping to irrelevant groups and/or entering irrelevant tags is prohibited.
  • 3 votes
#9.10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:37 PM EST
Darrah, Greenville, SC

I read it, Viki.

As far as no.1, viners having clipped seeds or articles to inappropriate groups. I've never seen that particular situationenforced. Viners knowingly clip stuff to groups in a vengeful way. I've had it happen to me.

But as what I was referring to, I'll just watch for examples of what I'm referring to since I can't explain it.

  • 3 votes
#9.11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:50 PM EST
Darrah, Greenville, SC

didn't have time to edit.

  • 4 votes
#9.12 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:56 PM EST
McSpocky

Red Wolf

If he's the only member of the groups he's seeding/posting to, he's only spamming himself.

Get a list of the groups and report them in one hit.

The single member group spam is an SEO tactic. The silly bastards spam their crap to masses of different self-created groups, but each group has a different subdomain. It's a blatant attempt to game Google.

I had never thought of that angle, but it makes sense.

  • 2 votes
#9.13 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:56 PM EST
McSpocky

If you look in this group, most of the posts are on topic. However there is one person spamming the group with off topic posts. If you look through the posts in the group you will see what I mean. http://rightwingnutjobs.newsvine.com/

  • 3 votes
#9.14 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:40 PM EST
Darrah, Greenville, SC

You know, that's not surprising. lol

  • 2 votes
#9.15 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:24 PM EST
McSpocky

I know, just thought I would mention it. lol

  • 2 votes
#9.16 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:45 PM EST
Reply
Boris-4446592

Wow, McSpocky

YES!, too many spammers.... Such is what the (vocal) USA has become. Personally, I'm not posting much anymore. There are too many poster who think "belief" = "fact." I can't deal with that.

What is your opinion when you see a (Vine) response calling someone a TROLL? (I aways check to see "joined date" before I even consider that....) Seriously, do people actually believe others are paid to post to "wrong-wing" sites"?

The USA has become a frightening place, I think.

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:09 PM EST
McSpocky

I've heard stories of people being paid to post certain types of content to social sites, but I don't know that to be fact. It might be an urban legend, I don't really know. Maybe someone else knows more about this?

As for trolls, there are a lot of instances where you can see a person in a thread trying to start something. It's best to not feed them, but I let myself get pulled in all too often even though I know better. lol

  • 3 votes
#10.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:57 PM EST
Reply
lauhal

People also clip items to the the wrong groups. Those groups show up in the list of links at the end of the article. One cannot determine if the original user posted an item to whatever group or whether someone else clipped it to the wrong group. You have to go to the group page to determine who is posting incorrectly.

Example - I clipped this article to the Sweeter Fennel group, but you can't tell that by looking at the list of groups at the bottom of the article.

  • 6 votes
Reply#11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:52 AM EST
Viki Babbles Gonia

Good point, lauhal.

  • 4 votes
#11.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:37 AM EST
MJL-3

I know when you read an article the reader can clip also, as I accidentally did on someones seed, I went back and deleted the clip, so if someone gets mad at your article and seed, they can clip it anywhere. That can be an issue also.

  • 5 votes
#11.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:46 AM EST
Viki Babbles Gonia

This is true, MJL-3, and as lauhal points out, we should be sure that the user who posted the article/seed actually was the one who posted it to the group, and that it wasn't clipped. You can tell that by looking at the group front page where the article is listed (it will say "clipped by so-and-so if it was clipped).

I really hope this is a problem that's solved in the New Newsvine.

  • 7 votes
#11.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:30 AM EST
Red Wolf

if someone gets mad at your article and seed, they can clip it anywhere

There have been suspensions for people who maliciously clip articles to the wrong groups; clipping Republican articles to Democrat groups, for example. However, there is usually a history between the article clipper and the article author to indicate that it was a malicious act.

  • 6 votes
#11.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:04 PM EST
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alaskabrat

wow you guys are good, i am struggling to have the time to even get noticed and u guys are smokin up these pages, how do you do it, hahaha its cool, been doing this i guess for a while, me i'm just happy to be able to hang out every now and again, take care yall, keep on newsvinin.

  • 4 votes
Reply#12 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:56 AM EST
MoonCrow

I looked at a couple of groups I'm in "writing" themed, and I couldn't believe all the "seeds" and political-based content. I thought the writing groups were for original content or VERY well-written articles or articles on writing seeded for others to share. Sad ...

  • 4 votes
Reply#13 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:19 AM EST
McSpocky

Maybe we should message the group owners when we see stuff like that.

  • 4 votes
#13.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:49 AM EST
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