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Being Poor

Seeded on Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:50 AM EST
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Being poor is knowing exactly how much everything costs.

Being poor is having to keep buying $800 cars because they’re what you can afford, and then having the cars break down on you, because there’s not an $800 car in America that’s worth a damn.

Being poor is hoping the toothache goes away.

Being poor is coming back to the car with your children in the back seat, clutching that box of Raisin Bran you just bought and trying to think of a way to make the kids understand that the box has to last.

Being poor is a heater in only one room of the house.

Being poor is Goodwill underwear.

Being poor is a bathtub you have to empty into the toilet.

Being poor is making lunch for your kid when a cockroach skitters over the bread, and you looking over to see if your kid saw.

Being poor is needing that 35-cent raise.

Being poor is six dollars short on the utility bill and no way to close the gap.

Being poor is crying when you drop the mac and cheese on the floor.

Being poor is people surprised to discover you’re not actually stupid.

Being poor is people surprised to discover you’re not actually lazy.

Being poor is a six-hour wait in an emergency room with a sick child asleep on your lap.

Being poor is never buying anything someone else hasn’t bought first.

Being poor is picking the 10 cent ramen instead of the 12 cent ramen because that’s two extra packages for every dollar.

Being poor is hoping the register lady will spot you the dime.

Being poor is a cough that doesn’t go away.

Being poor is a $200 paycheck advance from a company that takes $250 when the paycheck comes in.

Being poor is people who have never been poor wondering why you choose to be so.

Being poor is knowing how hard it is to stop being poor.

Being poor is seeing how few options you have.

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McSpocky

If Mitt Romney had to live this way for a few months, he wouldn't be so cold hearted towards the poor. He would realize that the safety net for the poor in this country falls way short.

I can relate to a number of items in this list. I personally went from a high paying job to unemployed over night, and it sucks big time.

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:53 AM EST
James Essayist

Mittjob is so effing oblivious he has to be either the most ignorant jerk in a company of ignorant jerks or being stupid on purpose.

(Hope your situation improves soon, McSpocky.)

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:59 AM EST
Dowser

I, too, can relate.

I think a lot of people who have never been poor have no idea HOW to be poor. I had a neighbor that had grown up wealthy, but life had dealt her several blows so that she was 'normal'.

She still ordered her blouses from Saks, but she only ordered one, rather than 12-- and thought she was making a huge sacrifice. She could have gotten the same 'look' at the Walstore, and had 20 or more of them. When her roof needed to be fixed, she called the most expensive company in the city-- and didn't bother to get a price quote from anyone else. She didn't know HOW to be poor.

I often think that our politicians need a dose of 'reality'.

  • 6 votes
#1.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:12 AM EST
johny-388777

I hate to say it. I am a well paid contractor. I know I am fortunate.

I keep laughing when I see others facing these problems of hardship. Though when I picture myself I feel in poverty, I feel sad. ha ha. Then I put more away incase :P

What is happening to me? Though i know its wrong I laugh at other peoples misfortune. I should join the republican party. ahhh. I feel like sh+t.

Though I find it wrong and I have to come and speak out.

We need better income equality. The policies to achieve this need be the main policies. This deficit destruction is plain wrong. Dead wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-nEFO4A3bo

I look to D. W. Eisenhower. We are so lucky to have so many good role models. :)

:)

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.Dwight D. Eisenhower

  • 5 votes
#1.3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:31 AM EST
McSpocky

That is a great quote by Ike, and very much on spot.

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:14 PM EST
James Essayist

One of my favorite Eisenhower quotes. Ike had considerably more sense about rich/poor, military/civilian than a lot of people since who claim to be in the same party. In a similar vein:

“War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent.” -George Orwell

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:27 PM EST
McSpocky

Eisenhower was a lot more intelligence than those currently running for the republican nomination and republicans currently in Congress, there's no question about that.

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:51 PM EST
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mon glas

Good Article McSpocky. Been there, done that on a lot of the items listed. What is really sad is having the fear that everything you have worked for to get out of the poor status may get taken away any moment.

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:53 AM EST
Chum

What is really sad is having the fear that everything you have worked for to get out of the poor status may get taken away any moment.

Painfully true. Been there and never want to be there again.

Am I a Democrat because I grew up poor and the government helped my family? Or would I have empathy anyway? Hard to say. I do know that poverty is humiliating and tough, and I never begrudge the taxes I pay that go to help people.

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:53 AM EST
mon glas

Been there and never want to be there again.

At the rate everything around us is changing though, there are no guarantees, even if you have worked hard, and planned for the future, and thats scary as hell.

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:16 AM EST
johny-388777

I don't really care about my taxes. I see the poverty and I know it can be changed but when you have executives ( fund mangers) voting in boards ( executives) to vote on executive pay packages.

How can there be anything left. I know that the extra few dollars can make or break rough necks down the bottom.

I have argued at my own workplace about the pay for low skilled. I hate to say it, they laugh in my face. The low skilled people made fun of me.

I did not resent it. What a fu+king mess we are in.

The construction industry is dead. We need to get away from fossil fuels where we can. This export of american dollars overseas will stop if we can get the energy here in the USA.

Obama if you settle with the Banks, Make it at least 100 billion.

The 401ks are f+ked anyhow. Make it a huge settlement. Don't make it 40 billion. Its just rubbish. These criminal fools imploded the economy. Make them Suffer.

We need to have a presidential decree to clear out the executives in all the top 10 banks. I just don't care. Get rid of these lousy bums.

I dont want them in the banks anymore.

Then I want the pension fund heads and there boards cleaned out. Obama give us a presidential decree. I want their contracts voided and kicked out.

F+k these S.O.Bs.

The pension funds which are run by fund managers ( executives) voted in the sh+t ( executives ) and keep them on in the banks for failure.

Get rid of the whole top 1% of all the banks. Just get rid of them . Promote up the lower groups. It will get the banking families and corporate elites out of the banks.

  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:39 AM EST
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Arkansas Gloria

I think many of us can relate to being poor- or at least having gone through some very difficult, economically challenging times. It makes us look at everything, all of our life's choices, and we have to re-evaluate every single aspect of our lives. The wealthier, the 'richer', and the rich, rarely need to consider anything- except perhaps to try a different wine next time with dinner. They cannot possibly relate to any of the life realities that any of us, even the moderately stable remaining 'middle class' have, much less what the poor go through.

I think it would be a good idea if any member of Congress was required to live with a household in their district, for 2 weeks, prior to beginning any term of office, and as a requirement of accepting that office. Maximum income of $22,000/yr, for a family of 2 might help that politician understand things from the 'real people'.

That said, there was a time when I think I was poorer than poor... there has been more than one time that I fed my daughter, but did not eat. When I was single, there were times when I figured out the highest nutritional value of something to eat: and I would eat 1 home-cooked hamburger patty/day. Added to that was 1/2 package of (chocolate) instant breakfast, made with powdered milk, as that could be made a little MORE nutritious if it was made a bit thicker, twice a day. The chocolate added a bit of energy, plus allowed one the feeling of a 'dessert'.

Another time, I had 1/2 of the Dell Taco Super Burrito in the A.M., about 10:00, and the second half about 2:15- 4:00. If by chance that did not sustain me for the day, I would add 1/2 pkg. of instant breakfast again, or MAYBE 1 hot dog. I am relating how poor I was, and how thin things were from time to time, in order to stand by this next thought, in response to McSpocky's initial statement:

He (speaking of Mitt Romney) would realize that the safety net for the poor in this country falls way short.

Only one time in my life did I go for any assistance, and that was for about 9-12 months, and that was due to a car accident, after which I could no longer stand upright. It took me 2 years to finally be able to do any work, and then, I was left with some residual damage that made me change careers. It is hard to be a machinist when one has become somewhat dyslexic, and turns numbers and letters around. As a waitress, I had saved enough to support my daughter and myself for the first year or so, and then, needed assistance... I was glad it was there for the period of time I used it. I was also glad to sign off of the assistance, even though most of the other recipients in the office lobby advised against it, stating there was no way I could earn the equivalent same amount of income as the assistance was providing, and that our QUALITY OF LIFE would drop. I would be paying for my own dental, or medical bills, and those of my daughter, when I COULD be having those covered for me.

It is not easy when life isn't easy, and I was now broke, with medical bills standing. I paid them all, even though they ruined my credit at that time, because it took so long.

I also learned many lessons, by being broke and poor, and in the decision to fend for myself: I learned to not just survive, but to thrive. I learned to re-evaluated myself, my habits, my spending, my life and way of life constantly. I learned how to save, how to earn more, how to grow things, how to sew, how to bid on 'side jobs' from the very machine shop I wasn't able to work for, at that time. I learned how to do physical labor jobs- cutting trees, pruning hedges, sweeping, mowing lawns, and how to take out, rebuild and replace my own motor from my $500.00 car that blew a head gasket, and I did not have the money to fix it immediately, so it scored the cylinder. I learned to rebuild that motor, on a $10.00 piece of linoleum, in my dining room, with 2 repair manuals in my hands.

I learned how to bake and sell specialty cakes, out of my house, and delivered them in my own rebuilt auto! Mostly, I learned: I CAN!

Are there times for a 'safety net'? Yes- of course! Are there many abusing it? Yes- of course! Are we supposed to sit back and watch these rotten, corrupt politicians vote themselves more riches- lifetime salaries- more benefits, while they aren't representing any of OUR needs, and when they have blatant disregard for the theft- harm- absolute ruination they have done to ALL of us in the US? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:06 PM EST
Dale95

You got one of those 'Working-man/woman's' PHDs. Hoo-Rah and Congrats. I like smart women with a, “Can-do” attitude.

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:59 AM EST
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The Desert Rattler

Being or becoming poor knows no boundaries. It doesn't matter your education level, nor lack of education. Doesn't know the color of your skin, nor heritage. Money in any form doesn't know the hands into which it flows, or diseminates from.

I may never have known how to survive and become a strong person with alot of tenacity, if I wasn't poor. I have been looked down upon, bullied, for I am a baby born from World War II. That's okay, it has been their loss, not mine.

As the saying goes, money can be the route of evil. My family and I will continue to live frugally, as that is the only way we know, and are very happy with our way of living. I am only too aware of all the people suffering these days, I have never seen it this bad before. McSpocky, here's wishing you and your family some good news soon.

TDR

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:16 PM EST
McSpocky

Thank you, I appreciate it.

  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:17 PM EST
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Shelby Davenport

Being poor is having that one thing, whether it is a health incident, losing your job, something that has you closer to not having anything at all, that comes up and bites you right in the face!

When I was married we were worth a really large amount of money. When the divorce was over, I had $350 to my name, and the Franchise Tax Board tried to take that. I worked 3 jobs at times, and over the years was able to get to the point that my head is finally above water. I'm not totally out of that water, but it's slowly getting better.

I have the utmost respect from my daughter who witnessed just how hard it was to get to where we both happen to be, now, and I think this is one reason why we are so compassionate to other people in need. When I have the extra cash, I tip a little larger, send extra to my horse's farrier at Christmas time, and put some bucks in the red kettle.

I can't speak to karma or god, as I don't think I believe in either. All I want is to be treated the way I would treat someone else. And I firmly believe that unless you have been through a rough time, it's difficult to relate - not on a gut level.

And that is one of the problems with our leadership, today. They are pretty well off financially before they even run for office, so where is the real hurt that they can pull from? Very few have it. Many more need it!

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:41 PM EST
Susan-3647822

Being poor is reading that whole damn list and not finding anything on it that doesn't apply to you.

  • 7 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:51 PM EST
McSpocky

Good observation, and true for too many people.

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:19 PM EST
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Tex-988483

Yeah, I know the scenario as well.....

"Nine Meals from Anarchy" and all that.....

"Concentrated power can be always wielded in the interest of the few and at the expense of the many. Government in its last analysis is this power reduced to a science. Governments never lead; they follow progress. When the prison, stake or scaffold can no longer silence the voice of the protesting minority, progress moves on a step, but not until then." Lucy Parsons

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:19 PM EST
James Essayist

"To the well-fed it seems cowardly to complain of tight boots, becasue the well-fed live in a different world-a world where, if your boots are tight, you can change them; their minds are not warped by petty discomfort. But below a certain income the petty crowds the large out of existence; one's preoccupation is not with art or religion, but with bad food, hard beds, drudgery and the sack." -George Orwell

  • 5 votes
#7.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:07 PM EST
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Dowser

What IS that quote?

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. "

Anatole France, The Red Lily, 1894, chapter 7

I can't get the quote thing to work, but that above is a quote. :-)

  • 2 votes
Reply#8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:17 AM EST
McSpocky

I've read that... it's true too.

  • 2 votes
#8.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:21 PM EST
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Arkansas Gloria

Tex: I like that quote!

"Concentrated power can be always wielded in the interest of the few and at the expense of the many. Government in its last analysis is this power reduced to a science. Governments never lead; they follow progress. When the prison, stake or scaffold can no longer silence the voice of the protesting minority, progress moves on a step, but not until then." Lucy Parsons

That seems to be where we are at, in this time and place, with all of our politicians, with our nation. The voice needs to become heard.

  • 4 votes
Reply#9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:14 AM EST
Tex-988483

Arkansas Gloria:

Indeed. Lucy Parsons is undoubtedly my all time favorite 19th century Afro/Latino Socialist/Anarchist. Her words are still relevant.

best your way

  • 4 votes
#9.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:28 PM EST
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SavickConn

I can add some to this.

Being poor is wearing your older sister's home-made-hand-me-downs that she got from a cousin.

Being poor is only eating what your father catches in the lake and your mother grows in the garden because you can't afford any food at a store.

Being poor is stealing your neighbors newspaper to use as toilet paper.

I can think of a few more but this is depressing to remember so I'll stop now.

  • 4 votes
Reply#10 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:48 PM EST
McSpocky

It's difficult emotionally to think about one's own experiences that have been like that, that's for sure.

  • 3 votes
#10.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:23 PM EST
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Arkansas Gloria

We ate fish one whole year, plus what I grew as soon as the weather allowed, and then, we raised meat rabbits, too after that. We are back on our feet now, for now, but to me, it isn't depressing, it's just a part of life- some times are leaner than others, and sometimes, we need to change in order to have some things change.

If I want to help others, I must have something to give. I cannot give if I don't have, and I won't have until and unless I look at everything that put me there, accept me and the situation fully, and change what didn't work for me. Yes, we may have been harmed by others, but then what? Move on. I am unable to help others if I am broke- so even if the process is a long one, make a goal and continue to move along those lines one step at a time.

  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:53 PM EST
Daniel The Mensch

Yup, now if there was only some way to make it harder for them to vote with stringent ID laws , poll taxes, or confuse issues with political smoke and mirrors, or invoke religious peripheries to distract them from voting in their own interests.

HEY, WAIT A SECOND!

  • 3 votes
Reply#12 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:57 PM EST
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