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U.S. Healthcare Rankings - Not Good!

Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:28 AM EDT
health, health-care, health-care-reform, life-expectancy, world-ranking, infant-mortality-rate
By McSpocky

U.S. Healthcare... Could be much better.

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Have you ever wondered where the United States ranks with other countries in the world for life expectancy? You might guess it would be in the top 10. Wrong! Top 20? Nope. Top 30? No way. Top 40? Not quite. For 2010, the United States barely makes it into the top fifty, at 49th place. Life expectancy in the United States is 78.24 years, while the longest life expectancy is in Monaco at 89.78 years.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

Looking at the infant mortality rate, we find that 44 other countries have a lower rate. The rate for the United States is 6.14%, while the lowest is in Monaco at 1.78%.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html

In the United states, we spend more on health care per person than any other country in the world. As you can see from the stats above, it hasn't done us any good.

The United States spends more on medical care per person than any country, yet life expectancy is shorter than in most other developed nations and many developing ones. Lack of health insurance is a factor in life span and contributes to an estimated 45,000 deaths a year. Why the high cost? The U.S. has a fee-for-service system—paying medical providers piecemeal for appointments, surgery, and the like. That can lead to unneeded treatment that doesn’t reliably improve a patient’s health. Says Gerard Anderson, a professor at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health who studies health insurance worldwide, “More care does not necessarily mean better care.” —Michelle Andrews

http://blogs.ngm.com/blog_central/2009/12/the-cost-of-care.html

To see the difference very clearly, take a look at this chart.

http://blogs.ngm.com/.a/6a00e0098226918833012876a6070f970c-800wi

Here is some more sobering information. This is from 2007, but it says a lot about the health care system we have had, and why change was so desperately needed.

35: Percentage of uninsured adults who reported that in the last year they needed care that they did not get; 47 percent reported that they postponed seeking care because of cost during the past year.

23: Percentage of families without insurance who report spending less on other basic needs such as food and heat in order to pay medical bills.

30: Percentage of sick Americans who have access to same-day care

45: Percentage of sick Britons who have access to same-day care.

1: Ranking of health care costs among reasons Americans file for bankruptcy.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/05/health_numbers.html

After looking at the above information, consider this. There are those who want to repeal Health Care reform, and keep what we had. Are they nuts?

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GoldenGateMami_Susi

We rank behind Costa Rica---a Third World nation with world class health care.

The last time my mom went home to visit family she got sick and had to be hospitalized.

Best health care she said she had ever received.

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:47 AM EDT
MDC-441879

It's a damn shame that your life depends on how much money you have in your pocket. Sometimes I can be so ashamed of this country and it's worship the rich mentality.

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:06 AM EDT
McSpocky

87: Percentage by which premiums rose between 2000 and 2006.

20: Percentage by which wages grew between 2000 and 2006.

18: Percentage by which inflation grew between 2000 and 2006.

  • 8 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:06 AM EDT
Shannoscubie

McSpocky, if I may be so bold as to add some more statistics:

In the US, the maternal mortality rate has DOUBLED in the past twenty years.

The U.S. international ranking in infant mortality fell from 12th place in 1960 to 30th place in 2005.

  • 7 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:26 AM EDT
McSpocky

The U.S. international ranking in infant mortality fell from 12th place in 1960 to 30th place in 2005.

And now 45th in 2010. :(

  • 4 votes
#4.1 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:28 PM EDT
Shannoscubie

And now 45th in 2010. :(

I saw the ranking but I wanted to see what it had been in the past, which direction we're going and at what sort of rate. Not good, as you said.

  • 4 votes
#4.2 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:01 PM EDT
McSpocky

I appreciate the info you found. It is a good thing to see which direction it has been moving...

  • 4 votes
#4.3 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:14 PM EDT
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rock n roller

As a former health care provider who has worked on the floors and for a short time , for an health care insurance carrier...what needs to be done is to seperate the health care indurstry from the insurance industry...they do not belong together... huge amounts of money are made by the insurance industry each year and their goal is to hang onto it...60 minutes did a piece this past Sunday night ... and what they want to do now is have cut off ages for certain procedures...this relating to Medicare...some of that would be justifiable...but I don't think the insurance industry should be in charge of that decision...there's no need to worry about another 9/11 attack...we're at risk because health care insurance premiums...and that has nothing to do with terrorism.

  • 8 votes
Reply#5 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:37 AM EDT
McSpocky

I find it interesting that there were all these people who believed we didn't need any health care overhaul. They all kept spewing how we have the greatest health care in the world. I put up an article pointing out that our healthcare system definitely needed fixed, and now where did all those people go? LOL

  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:22 PM EDT
neenie1991

Maybe too sick to respond?

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:17 PM EDT
GoldenGateMami_Susi

Their waiting on their orders...err......talking points to respond Spocky.

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:27 AM EDT
McSpocky

They probably are waiting for Rush to tell them what to say.

  • 2 votes
#6.3 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:28 PM EDT
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McSpocky

Also, take a look at this article...
http://illuminate.newsvine.com/_news/2010/08/12/4876882-many-still-in-dark-groups-shed-light-on-health-care-law

  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:31 PM EDT
Teresa-1718369

There are too many people in this country who believe what their political party wants them to believe. They don't due research; or, if they do they see it as left wing propaganda. I especially like the ones who believe a particular party is acting in the best interest of our country because "he (or she) is a good Christian who loves this country and wouldn't deliberately do anything to harm it."

What we need in this country is for all politicians to publish any and all industries in which they are vested, both public AND private. This is in addition to any campaign contributions received from industries that are bleeding the general public in order to protect their incomes and bonuses.

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:32 PM EDT
mtmynd

Facts you'll never see reported on Faux News and their parrots.

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:46 PM EDT
David Sewall-2721414

Why weren't the success stories of the most successful countries mentioned during the recent U.S. health care bill debates? Maybe they were but I don't recall hearing much.

    Reply#10 - Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:49 PM EST
    David Sewall-2721414

    Why weren't the success stories of the top ranked countries mentioned during the Health Care Bill debates in U.S. Congress? Or were they?

      Reply#11 - Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:06 PM EST
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