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Global Warming Is Here Now!

Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:59 PM EDT
environment, global-warming, carbon-dioxide, global-climate-change, world-climate
By McSpocky

Global warming is here NOW.

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Global warming is here now!

To help bring this message to light, I'm providing a number of clips from various sources.

Please read these clips, and then tell us what you think about Global Warming!

Climatologists (scientists who study climate) have analyzed the global warming that has occurred since the late 1800's. A majority of climatologists have concluded that human activities are responsible for most of the warming. Human activities contribute to global warming by enhancing Earth's natural greenhouse effect. The greenhouse effect warms Earth's surface through a complex process involving sunlight, gases, and particles in the atmosphere.

The main human activities that contribute to global warming are the burning of fossil fuels (coal, oil, and natural gas) and the clearing of land. Most of the burning occurs in automobiles, in factories, and in electric power plants that provide energy for houses and office buildings. The burning of fossil fuels creates carbon dioxide, whose chemical formula is CO2. CO2 is a greenhouse gas that slows the escape of heat into space.

http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook.html

Devastating heat waves sweeping across continents. Poisonous plants producing more potent toxins. Air quality plummeting on summer days. Disease-carrying insects swarming mountain villages.These scenarios aren't the recipe for a summer disaster movie. They're some of the widespread health consequences caused by global warming. And they're happening right now, all over the world.

http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/globalwarming-map/default.asp

How do we know that human activities—namely the emissions from our tailpipes and smokestacks—are responsible for warming the planet? To Benjamin Santer, a climate scientist at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, the answer lies clearly within the data. It turns out that, just as perpetrators leave hard evidence like fingerprints and DNA samples at the scene of a crime, the various causes of climate change leave distinct signatures or patterns that climate scientists can identify if they look carefully enough.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/climate-scientist-benjamin-santer.html

Scientists' measurements show that sea levels around the globe have risen by about 1.3 inches per decade since 1990. Precise measurements from satellites as well as tide gauges indicate that this rise has accelerated over the past 20 years, up from the previous rate of 0.7 inch per decade in the last half of the twentieth century. New research suggests that if we continue pumping carbon dioxide into our atmosphere at a high rate globally, the water level along the coasts could rise another 2.6 to 5.3 feet in the next 100 years.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/impacts/preparing-for-sea-level-rise.html

The current emissions trajectory—if allowed to continue (and if Earth's response is at the higher end of values of expected sensitivity to heat-trapping-gas forcing)—indicates that in the next couple of centuries some parts of the world are likely to be too hot for humans. "In our study, we just asked the basic questions. If we burn a lot of carbon and the climate system is sensitive to greenhouse-gas emissions, how bad could it get for humans?" Huber said. "We were disturbed to find that it gets really bad."

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/impacts/health-effects-of-heat-waves.html

The planet is warming, from North Pole to South Pole, and everywhere in between. Globally, the mercury is already up more than 1 degree Fahrenheit (0.8 degree Celsius), and even more in sensitive polar regions. And the effects of rising temperatures aren’t waiting for some far-flung future. They’re happening right now. Signs are appearing all over, and some of them are surprising. The heat is not only melting glaciers and sea ice, it’s also shifting precipitation patterns and setting animals on the move.

http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/gw-effects/

Glaciers are melting, sea levels are rising, cloud forests are drying, and wildlife is scrambling to keep pace. It's becoming clear that humans have caused most of the past century's warming by releasing heat-trapping gases as we power our modern lives. Called greenhouse gases, their levels are higher now than in the last 650,000 years.

http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/gw-overview/

Even if we stopped emitting greenhouse gases (GHGs) today, the Earth would still warm by another degree Fahrenheit or so. But what we do from today forward makes a big difference. Depending on our choices, scientists predict that the Earth could eventually warm by as little as 2.5 degrees or as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit.

http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/gw-solutions/

Done right, this "cap-and-invest" strategy will create millions of jobs, make America more secure and restore the United States to a position of world leadership in technology and innovation. Think of these policies as the next generation of climate legislation, improving on the cap-and-trade proposals of the past. To capture this spirit, we're calling these recommendations Cap 2.0.

http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/cap2.0/default.asp

Each year from 1998 through 2007 ranks among the top 25 warmest years on record for the United States, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Scientists say that the earth could warm by an additional 7.2 degrees Fahrenheit during the 21st century if we fail to reduce emissions from burning fossil fuels, such as coal and oil. This rise in average temperature will have far-reaching effects on the earth's climate patterns and on all living things. Many of these changes have already begun.

http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/fcons.asp

The reduction of the permanent Arctic sea ice by 14 percent since the 1970s is causing not only feeding and breeding difficulties, but also drownings and apparent cannibalism among bears. Government scientists have predicted rapid declines of bears in all but the most northern of the range..

http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/pages/alaska.html

Climate-related changes are already observed in the United States and its coastal waters. These include increases in heavy downpours, rising temperature and sea level, rapidly retreating glaciers, thawing permafrost, lengthening growing seasons, lengthening ice-free seasons in the ocean and on lakes and rivers, earlier snowmelt, and alterations in river flows. These changes are projected to grow.
http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/pages/temperate-zone.html

If global warming emissions continue to rise unabated, we will see growing costs related to climate change. This fact sheet reports some of the projected damages—to our coasts, our health, our energy and water resources, our agriculture, our transportation infrastructure, and our recreational resources—that will occur in states and regions throughout the United States. Making the choice to dramatically lower our emissions at least 80 percent from 2005 levels by 2050 will help avoid some of the worst consequences of climate change.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/impacts/climate-costs-of-inaction.html

  • Melting glaciers, early snowmelt and severe droughts will cause more dramatic water shortages in the American West.
  • Rising sea levels will lead to coastal flooding on the Eastern seaboard, in Florida, and in other areas, such as the Gulf of Mexico.
  • Warmer sea surface temperatures will fuel more intense hurricanes in the southeastern Atlantic and Gulf coasts.
  • Forests, farms and cities will face troublesome new pests and more mosquito-borne diseases.
  • Disruption of habitats such as coral reefs and alpine meadows could drive many plant and animal species to extinction.

http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/f101.asp?gclid=CLmbpI_Fr6MCFdj75woduHsF6A

Scientists are no longer debating the basic facts of climate change. In February 2007, the thousands of scientific experts collectively known as the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concluded that there is greater than 90 percent likelihood that people are causing global warming. (IPCC, 2007)

These latest findings amplify what other highly respected science organizations say:

  • In a joint statement with 10 other National Academies of Science, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences said:

    "The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action. It is vital that all nations identify cost-effective steps that they can take now, to contribute to substantial and long-term reduction in net global greenhouse gas emissions."—Joint Statement of Science Academies: Global Response to Climate Change, 2005

  • The American Geophysical Union, a respected organization comprising over 41,000 Earth and space scientists, wrote in its position on climate change that "natural influences cannot explain the rapid increase in global near-surface temperatures observed during the second half of the 20th century."

http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=35215&source=ggadgw35215&gclid=CLfrmMLVr6MCFRD75wod6FCM4Q

Levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are higher today than at any time in measurable history.

A study published in the journal Science reports that the current level of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere — about 390 parts per million — is higher today than at any time in measurable history — at least the last 2.1 million years. Previous peaks of CO2 were never more than 300 ppm over the past 800,000 years, and the concentration is rising by around 2 ppm each year.
http://www.edf.org/article.cfm?contentID=10717

If you look at the information with an open mind, there is no denying that Global Warming is a fact.

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McSpocky

A study published in the journal Science reports that the current level of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere — about 390 parts per million — is higher today than at any time in measurable history — at least the last 2.1 million years.

  • 13 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:54 PM EDT
bobbievee

Powerful scientific evidence that will appeal to rational minds. But to convince the rest of the populace, we'll have to be more aggressive in our debates with the Deniers - per your other article. We should go on the offensive and assault the Deniers' lack of credibility. I've found they don't like that very much, and tend to lose their composure.

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:15 PM EDT
IronLung

It will help them see the light if you claim that Jesus told you this on a mountain top and it was later confirmed by any of the Palins.

  • 8 votes
#1.2 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:48 PM EDT
YaddaYadda

...carbon dioxide ...

Quick! We must save the planet! Everyone...STOP BREATHING!!!

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:08 AM EDT
Don't you people have jobs?

B-b-b-bb-b-but... it's cold out (in my best Texan accent) [/sarc]

  • 5 votes
#1.4 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:01 AM EST
sammy sezso

bobbievee

Powerful scientific evidence that will appeal to rational minds. But to convince the rest of the populace, we'll have to be more aggressive in our debates with the Deniers - per your other article.

All you'd have to do is run the story on fux news! Have rush and hannity give it a few minutes saying it's real and a threat, and the rest of the populace will be on your side!

McSpocky, You know that all the facts are going to confuse the fux news viewers even more, don't you?

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:42 PM EST
McSpocky

Yeah, if FAUX news decided to say it was true FAUX news viewers would be falling all over themselves believing it then. But as long as FAUX news refuses to acknowledge it, FAUX news viewers won't either. FAUX news is their Messiah.

  • 9 votes
#1.6 - Thu Dec 1, 2011 11:12 AM EST
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StevG-144

I don't care if their leg was on fire, you will never get republicans to admit that global warming is real. They are for big business, and big oil, and are paid very well to fight for their benefactors outlook, in every way that might cost them, to spend their profits for something, as the way they see it, as stupid as global warming. They see it as a liberal attach, by tree huggers, who in spite of powerful scientific evidence, make up this stuff. Ice shelf's breaking off, hell they were old, what do you expect. Record globle temperatures, the first six months in recorded history of the world, its just a cycle, they will go back down. Rule number eight of the republican party-Deny, Deny And Lie.

  • 14 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:03 PM EDT
Kathy-1571680

I found that calling it global warming vs. climate change diffuses some of the arguments the Republicans offer. That bobble-headed blonde commentator Fox uses so often cited the record snow falls in 48 states last winter as "proof" there was no global warming. My little town saw 54 inches of snow in a few days and has seen 44 days of temps over 90 and 15 over 100 while the avg snow fall is 8 inches and the summer temp around 87. Climate change is something a reasonable mind can observe and accept- key word is reasonable- which does not seem to be in the vocabulary of the Deniers.

  • 9 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:37 PM EDT
hemphill

I find it better to skirt the entire debate and talk about the stupidity of dumping toxins into your breathing air, in a closed system. It's kind of a no brainer....

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:00 PM EST
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upswing

Mr. Spocky:

Does any of your "evidence" for AGW:

1. Not come from or through the IPCC?

2. Not rely on computer modeling?

Thanks.

  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:51 PM EDT
Peace*Talk

Oh no more CO2! Is that why all my trees & plants are so big this year? What ever shall we do UpSwing? I know maybe we should start a campaign against Dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO) that will stop those pesky trees & plants.

    #4.1 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:10 PM EDT
    upswing

    PeaceTalk:

    I know maybe we should start a campaign against Dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO) that will stop those pesky trees & plants.

    Down with DHMO!!

    Now, I'm going swimming ... ;-)

      #4.2 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:21 PM EDT
      MidBosque

      That would be the ph chemistry of the oceans. Ocean acidification is another direct result of anthropogenic carbon. The oceans are a huge sink for carbon. The oceans have been sopping up a lot of the carbon dumped in the atmosphere since the industrial revolution. They continue to do so, along with 90 percent of the anthropogenic GHG heat.

      Just as the vast majority of oxygen on the planet is produced by tiny marine organisms (and not terrestrial plants), so also much of the planet's natural carbon cycle involves tiny organisms that secrete shell material made of CaCo3. These are the corals and a type of phytoplankton called coccolithophorids.

      Acidifying the oceans is particularly detrimental to these organisms because it softens their shells making them less adept at surviving disease and predation. That's worrisome on many levels. For one, corals are base species for marine ecosystems. Phytoplankton are a base species of the ocean's food-chain. These are species whose absence would have profound consequences for all life in the seas. Life on land would miss these creatures even more. When these organisms die their bodies rain down to the seafloor, taking the carbon in their shells with them. That accumulated detritus gets locked away in the ocean substrate (from a human sense of time), eventually becoming limestone. The decline of coral has been well documented for more than a decade. More recently, its been confirmed that phytoplankton are also in decline. This means that the oceans inherent capacity for removing carbon from the atmosphere is being diminished.

      No models. No IPCC. Just a little bit of time and you will find more confirmation of this than you can read in a lifetime.

      • 9 votes
      #4.3 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:35 PM EDT
      upswing

      MidBosque:

      Ocean acidification is another direct result of anthropogenic carbon.

      As opposed to non-anthropogenic carbon?

      I didn't realize that man produced a dofferent kind of carbon than "nature."

      Interesting.

      I suppose the answer to the amazig anthro-non-anthro carbon question would matter if there were any demonstrable historical causative link between carbon levels in the atmosphere and the Earth's temperature/climate ... Which there isn't beyond what the IPCC says and bogus computer models.

        #4.4 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:43 PM EDT
        upswing

        McSpocky:

        Were you planning on pointing out which of your sources above do not come via the IPCC and/or via computer modeling?

        Thanks.

          #4.5 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:10 PM EDT
          Reply
          MidBosque

          Of course, you'd lose time venting your spleen here all day. You'd have to run your own cost-benefit analysis.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#5 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:38 PM EDT
          scassedy

          Here is the flip side of the coin:)

          http://scassedy.newsvine.com/_news/2010/08/05/4828187-global-warming-man-made-hoax-or-real

            Reply#6 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:37 AM EDT
            McSpocky

            There is no flip side. If you look at the documented evidence, the only possible conclusion is that global warming is fact. :)

            • 12 votes
            #6.1 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:09 PM EDT
            scassedy

            there is always a flip side:) Did you take a look?

              #6.2 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:13 PM EDT
              upswing

              McSpocky:

              There is no flip side.

              The only thing that does not have a flip side is something that does not exist in the real world.

              • 1 vote
              #6.3 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:29 PM EDT
              nyghtshayde

              What the science says...

              The CO2 that nature emits (from the ocean and vegetation) is balanced by natural absorptions (again by the ocean and vegetation). Therefore human emissions upset the natural balance, rising CO2 to levels not seen in at least 800,000 years. In fact, human emit 26 gigatonnes of CO2 per year while CO2 in the atmosphere is rising by only 15 gigatonnes per year - much of human CO2 emissions is being absorbed by natural sinks.

              Scientist know that the manmade emmissions of mercury have polluted the oceans and every body of water around the world to the point it is accumulating to toxic levels in the food chain.Common sense tells us and history has shown,that too much of anything is generally not good.

              • 11 votes
              #6.4 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:10 PM EDT
              scassedy

              Check out #6

              • 1 vote
              #6.5 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:15 PM EDT
              StevG-144

              nyghtshayde is right, every body knows how man works, deny, deny, until its to late, nows the time everyone needs to get serious, and work to protect the future, where you can still make a difference.

              • 9 votes
              #6.6 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:40 PM EDT
              McSpocky

              People will probably keep denying until the point where part of the earth is too hot to be habitable, and even then they may find reasons to deny...

              • 8 votes
              #6.7 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:54 PM EDT
              nyghtshayde

              Check out #6

              Actually,I read it last night.Much of it is old talking points.I've never liked or listened to Al Gore.I don't agree with the cap and trade.I think it's another scam and won't work any better than the Kyoto protocol did.CO2 controls should not be a profitable venture,it should be a part of a business emission control plan.If a company does not regulate their emmissions,they should be fined until they do.Energy plants in the US are expected to control other emmissions like mercury and sulphur,why not CO2?

              The IPCC"s motives are questionable,but the science they used to create their reports is for the most part accurate and was not developed by them.There have been exaggerations made by Gore and a handful of others to further their agendas,but the scientists behind the majority of the reports are only searching for the truth.

              The US military has agreed that climate change is a future threat to world security and is addressing it,whether the general public does or not.NOAA and the EPA have both dropped into the unreliable category with their lies and cover-ups in the Gulf.Telling me they will do what ever benefits them and their corporately controlled politicians.Where does this all leave us?Trying to figure out,who is in it for the money and who is in it to solve the problems,that can be solved.

              • 7 votes
              #6.8 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:56 PM EDT
              scassedy

              Well I guess we shall see, I do my part to do as little impact as possible. But its not really individuals that produce a lot of pollution.

              With all the research that is available nowadays it is up to the individual to form an opinion.

              Yes there should be regulations regarding how much pollution is allowed, as there is already but we aren't the only country that needs to do this.

              I personally think we are in a warming period, due to the amount of salt in the ocean. We really don't have much of a record as far as cooling and warming periods go when you look at how long the earth has been in existence. I am not an expert in that field either, so I can only read what the experts say and draw conclusions from that.

              Time will tell.

              • 1 vote
              #6.9 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:17 PM EDT
              sammy sezso

              scassedy

              Here is the flip side of the coin:)

              http://scassedy.newsvine.com/_news/2010/08/05/4828187-global-warming-man-made-hoax-or-real

              I tried to see what "the flip side of the coin" was saying but it says the author deleted the article. :(

              • 2 votes
              #6.10 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:30 AM EST
              anonymous refugee

              the chem trail thing has some validity. But I do not know more than the fact that where these are noticed scientist are detecting high concentrations of water soluble heavy metals settling on the soil surface layers.

              I think there is some serious need to look into a connection between these events and atmospheric conditions upon the planet as a whole.

              being a realist, I would say there is need for objective research and not some political circus made about this

              • 2 votes
              #6.11 - Thu Dec 8, 2011 12:05 AM EST
              McSpocky

              http://illuminate.newsvine.com/_news/2010/05/31/4441325-chemtrail-conspiracy-theory

              • 4 votes
              #6.12 - Thu Dec 8, 2011 11:03 AM EST
              Reply
              TheyreAllCrooks

              More left wing tree hugging nonsense! (sarc)

              Just because the North Pole is disappearing, and the oceans are rising, and Moscow is burning and this is the hottest summer in history is no reason to get your panties in a bunch!

              • 6 votes
              Reply#7 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:28 PM EDT
              upswing

              TheyreAllCrooks:

              Just because the North Pole is disappearing, and the oceans are rising, and Moscow is burning and this is the hottest summer in history is no reason to get your panties in a bunch!

              You really want to use a weather argument to support a climate claim?

              Maybe you don't see the problem with doing this?

              • 1 vote
              #7.1 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:31 PM EDT
              Roy Batty

              More left wing tree hugging nonsense! (sarc)

              Actually, you have hit the nail on the head. The problem with this issue is that it is a scientific issue that has become politicized. The lines of "belief" are not drawn from fact, but ideology.

              If we are to ever truly address this concern, we need to get past that.

              • 4 votes
              #7.2 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 12:23 PM EST
              Reply
              Physicist-retired

              McSpocky,

              Should I step in here? Or have I posted enough on the subject?

              Hard to tell...

              • 6 votes
              Reply#8 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:06 PM EDT
              McSpocky

              Keep on posting! I love it....

              Thanks!

              • 7 votes
              #8.1 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:18 PM EDT
              Physicist-retired

              I despair on this thread. Maybe you could start a new one on a private seed?

              • 5 votes
              #8.2 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:16 AM EDT
              McSpocky

              I've been considering something along that line for share information, which later can be used on other threads to educate the public. Stay tuned...

              • 7 votes
              #8.3 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:53 PM EDT
              upswing

              Phycisist-Retired:

              I despair on this thread. Maybe you could start a new one on a private seed?

              Like a religious sect?

                #8.4 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:47 PM EDT
                McSpocky

                Which turned out to be the Global Climate Data Repository

                • 3 votes
                #8.5 - Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:44 PM EST
                Reply
                upswing

                Standing back from this seed for a moment and looking at the chorus of patently delusion-based panic reverberating through the robotic Warmist posters, I honestly lose hope for us all.

                Global warming isn't what threatens us the most: Loss of the ability for critical thinking among the masses and a "justifiable" righteous bigotry among Warmists are far greater threats to humanity.

                And this seed and its Warmist and racist posters surely exposes that vulnerability.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#9 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:08 PM EDT
                robert a-2494348

                The truth exzest

                Our earth (bio-electrict -magnesium membrair ) Is in a retractive in stem intesive to exspentese

                to recive (Molly-cell-u-light) stage reaction .

                It is the light that burst and give it,s self as life.

                Magnetic lumination photosynthesizing impulse reflection can maitain for are menbrain a reduction within a 40% electrical magnetic transfer of (Molly-u-light + moon incerments restore ) Retro-built nuature,s natural block, within an alliance of our conformities. Which Implicatatrs a growth formula of restoral Impertaining [A] Particular Non-INCANDESCENT,{47 %} STIMULATION IN 8 YEARS BEST CASE to a restored in A plesent atmosphere IF DONE CORRECTLY

                9

                • 1 vote
                Reply#10 - Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:14 PM EDT
                robert a-2494348

                The truth exzest

                Our earth (bio-electrict -magnesium membrair ) Is in a retractive in stem intesive to exspentese

                to recive (Molly-cell-u-light) stage reaction .

                It is the light that burst and give it,s self as life.

                Magnetic lumination photosynthesizing impulse reflection can maitain for are menbrain a reduction within a 40% electrical magnetic transfer of (Molly-u-light + moon incerments restore ) Retro-built nuature,s natural block, within an alliance of our conformities. Which Implicatatrs a growth formula of restoral Impertaining [A] Particular Non-INCANDESCENT,{47 %} STIMULATION IN 8 YEARS BEST CASE to a restored in A plesent atmosphere IF DONE CORRECTLY

                • 1 vote
                Reply#11 - Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:28 PM EDT
                robert a-2494348

                save some lives see it,s read and get,s out

                GOD BLESS

                • 1 vote
                Reply#12 - Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:06 AM EDT
                robert a-2494348

                it s a gift to pervent wars and raise over 200 million abion childern and edichacit to be the same to be bless and have the abbilty to right to right a hole page in one day and all can comulaite

                • 1 vote
                Reply#13 - Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:03 AM EDT
                robert a-2494348

                grapes routing on earths vine im done at last

                • 1 vote
                Reply#14 - Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:15 AM EDT
                Flashypaws

                robert...

                wtf?

                • 5 votes
                Reply#15 - Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:18 PM EST
                McSpocky

                I agree. lol

                • 4 votes
                #15.1 - Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:37 PM EST
                Reply
                Mary Price99224

                Has been here since Camile, 1969.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#16 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 11:21 PM EST
                DerryGirl

                I don't think that any rational person actually questions the fact that Global Warming is real and is here now. What is of most concern is the repeated failure to really address the problems and make a concerted global effort to slow, stop and reverse the damage to the earth especially over the last 250 years and that delay (from both laziness and a lack of foresight) is going to be the death of us, literally.

                It is significant that Big Businesses, worldwide, are actively undermining the mountains of data supporting Climate Change and Global Warming - now more than ever profits and pollution prevail over conservation and environmental care-taking - shameless and dangerous!

                • 5 votes
                Reply#17 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 12:45 PM EST
                McSpocky

                There are people here in Newsvine that still argue global warming isn't real, so I don't know how many there are in the general public. I remember seeing a video from FAUX news about a year ago I think it was where they were denying global warming. I think it's a fairly common belief on the far right. I don't think they are rational though. lol

                If you're not in it, you may be interested in this group. Global Climate Data Repository

                • 4 votes
                #17.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 5:02 PM EST
                upswing

                DerryGirl:

                I don't think that any rational person actually questions the fact that Global Warming is real and is here now

                It is NOT questioning received information that is irrational. If it wasn't, we'd all still believe in Santa Claus.

                What IS irrational is continuin gto believe a thoroughly debunked and exposed discredited source such as the IPCC after it's obvious that it's a front for banking interests.

                And what is REALLY irrational is continiung to believe claims that the IPCC made four years ago and is now implicitly retracting in its most recent report. Why would anyone continue to believ claims that the source itself has retracted?

                If you think that questioning received information is irrational, then you have littel regard for science.

                • 2 votes
                #17.2 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 12:43 AM EST
                McSpocky

                http://i44.tinypic.com/zuf4zl.jpg

                • 3 votes
                #17.3 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:46 PM EST
                DerryGirl

                Yes, McSpocky, the operative word there was rational, and I agree the Fauxbot GW deny-ers certainly can't claim to be that (lol)!!

                Denying Climate Change and Global Warming because Big Industry says so via Faux News, is just like believing Big Tobacco when they were denying smoking cigarettes caused lung cancer for 4 decades before finally admitting that they lied and agreeing science was correct ....

                Science has proved time and again that Global Warming is real, that it is for the most part man-made and that the time to try to fix, and hopefully reverse, the damage IS NOW and Big Business be damned!

                And thanks for the link, I'll certainly check it out!

                • 5 votes
                #17.4 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 10:25 AM EST
                McSpocky

                Thanks for joining the group, DerryGirl. :)

                • 3 votes
                #17.5 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 2:48 PM EST
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                Terry Yoder

                I was just talking with someone the other day who just returned from a visit to India and shared a picture they took with me showing very visible smog at the Taj Mahal. Man's fingerprint on our environment is undeniable. The individual sharing the photo with me had mentioned how India's population had now topped 1 billion and how at the Taj Mahal empty plastic water bottles were laying around in huge numbers everywhere. The industrialization of Asia alongside the development of 3rd and 4th worlds unfortunately coincide with everpresent effects of misuse of the environment and global environmental destruction. It's no laughing matter what is being and has been done to ruin our environment by ordinary people, global governmental and industrial assaults, neglect, ignorance, poor priorities, and bad planning.

                • 5 votes
                Reply#18 - Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:07 AM EST
                McSpocky

                There isn't anyplace on the planet not touched by man's carelessness. This link only tells about one of the plastic islands of garbage floating on the ocean. There are others...

                http://www.momgoesgreen.com/welcome-to-plastic-island-the-great-pacific-garbage-patch/

                • 5 votes
                #18.1 - Thu Dec 8, 2011 11:11 AM EST
                Terry Yoder

                Thank-you for the telling and excellent link my friend. You are so right there are other plastic islands but maybie with enough spotlight put on problem areas enough caring individuals from around the world will come forth in time to save our environment and planet.

                • 3 votes
                #18.2 - Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:23 AM EST
                McSpocky

                I put up a seed about that too that you might be interested in. :)

                The Great Pacific plastic trash island (Video)

                • 4 votes
                #18.3 - Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:48 AM EST
                McSpocky

                Also a new seed on Global Warming...

                Global Warming: It's Not About the Hockey Stick

                • 3 votes
                #18.4 - Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:49 AM EST
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                RACHEL1-933952

                So, it isn't climate change that had us with 10* temps and 5" of snow in the desert, while my parents in western NY had 60's and no snow in December?

                Seriously, none of the weather for the past few years has made much sense at all. And, yes, man has contributed to it!

                • 6 votes
                Reply#19 - Thu Dec 8, 2011 1:20 PM EST
                Dr Know

                Guess we need to lessen the load of human beings on the environment. Who is volunteering to be culled from the herd first? The ones with all the hot air???

                • 3 votes
                Reply#20 - Thu Dec 8, 2011 5:56 PM EST
                Roy Batty

                The ones with all the hot air???

                Heh, I guess for the most bang for the buck we would start in Washington, DC!

                • 5 votes
                Reply#21 - Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:03 PM EST
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